Canon ST-E2, Great Auto Focus Assist But Worthless Otherwise

Canon Speedlite Transmitter ST-E2

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The Canon Speedlite Transmitter ST-E2 is a portable infrared wireless transmitter designed to wirelessly trigger Canon Speedlites. For the most part, it does that well. But unfortunately, there some severe limitations that makes it a waste of money. If you’re in the market to purchase a ST-E2, wait and read this post first before making your purchase, you won’t regret it.

Ratios, But Where’s Group C

While the ST-E2 is able to control Groups A and B of the Canon Wireless Flash System’s (CWFS) Ratio System, it has no control settings for Group C. While perhaps not an often used Group, it seems rather short-sighted not to allow the user whether or not they want or need to use Group C.

The reason for the lack of Group C controls might have something to do with…

The Lack of Digital Controls

Did you know that Nikon’s wireless transmitter, the SU-800 Commander Unit, has a digital display back where power can be dialed in to each Group, including Group C? It also allows you to flash exposure compensation. Canon, on the other hand, opted for analog controls with few options. And of the few options, you can’t…

Set Flash Exposure Compensation…In Your Dreams

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With the loss of control to use Group C, and to add insult to injury, with the ST-E2 you can’t set flash exposure compensation unlike the Nikon SU-800 or a Canon 580EX II Speedlite. This is a fairly critical important item for a wedding photographer such as myself, as we’re always looking for soft, diffused light and if we can’t easily dial back the flash output, that doesn’t help us. Yes, I know you can dial back exposure compensation, but that doesn’t help when I need to dial back flash and exposure compensation to create a nice saturated background while keeping nice soft light on my subject(s).

In The Line of Sight

Unlike the 580EX II Speedlite, the ST-E2 uses infrared to transmit the necessary signals to get Slaved Speedlites to fire. Unfortunately this make the transmitter very line of sight. Unlike the 580EX II and Sto-Fen trick I talk about here, you can’t really do much other than put the ST-E2 on a OC-E3 sync cable to put the infrared transmitter more in the line of sight of the Slaved Speedlite. And unlike a Speedlite where the head can swivel and tilt as needed, the ST-E2 does neither.

I’ve also read a number of online posts where the ST-E2 has limited range outdoors. I’m willing to bet it’s because the infrared signal dissipates quickly in bright sunlight. I’ve never had a problem triggering Slaved Speedlites with my Master Speedlite using the Sto-Fen trick.

Other Complaints That Are Less Significant But Still Annoying

The ST-E2 uses the same crappy hot shoe design as every flash prior to the 580EX, the “slide-in-screw-down”. It doesn’t really affect the operation of it, but it is a lot of wasted time screwing and unscrewing the ST-E2 to put it on and take it off.

Did you know that the ST-E2 doesn’t use a standard type of battery such as a double-A or triple-A but rather uses a 2CR5? Not a huge deal, but stock up.

Say Something Good

For ~$220, the Canon Speedlite Transmitter ST-E2 helps with auto focusing by emitting the red LED grid to help in situations of low-light. Although the red LED grid makes it hard for you, as the photographer, to blend in and get candid shots sometimes.

Conclusion

So if you have been considering the ST-E2 to use as a wireless transmitter and/or auto focus assist, don’t. If you buy this unit brand new at B&H Photo Video, it’ll cost you $220 versus a brand new 580EX II Speedlite for $445. While the 580EX II is double the cost of the ST-E2, it’s also double the usefulness. Imagine this, you’re photographing a wedding and the ST-E2 drops and breaks. If you have more than one 550EX, 580EX, or 580EX II, you can use one as a Master unit, not all is lost. But what if you only had one ST-E2 and one 580EX II and it’s the 580EX II that dropped and broke or malfunctioned? That ST-E2 will be just a nice auto focus assist unit. If $445 is too much to drop for a new 580EX II, consider buying it used for ~$300. If $300 is still too much, consider getting the 580EX (~$225-250) or even the 550EX (under $200) from Craigslist.

It’s better to invest the money into something that gives you more bang-for-the-buck.

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Peter Rowe - >> The ST-E2 uses the same crappy hot shoe design as every flash prior to the 580EX, the “slide-in-screw-down”. It doesn’t really affect the operation of it, but it is a lot of wasted time screwing and unscrewing the ST-E2 to put it on and take it off.

The ST-E2 doesn’t use a “screw-down” to lock it.December 29, 2009 – 10:52 am

Richard Bui - Peter Rowe: Good catch! I need to change the post.January 7, 2010 – 12:11 pm

Martin - You mention that the ST-E2 doesn’t allow flash exposure compensation.

However, flash exposure compensation is possible with the ST-E2 – but it needs to be set via the camera, and can’t be set via the ST-E2 itself.
With the ST-E2 mounted on my 50D, I can do FEC by hitting the FEC button on the 50D, and then rotating the main dial to adjust it up or down, and it works as expected – adjusting the flash output by the specified number of stops.January 9, 2010 – 7:09 am

David - Given that the images in this post are borrowed from flikr, I’d say that you don’t actually own an st-e2, and that I’m glad I didn’t happen upon this article when I was looking into buying one. You list an awful lot of negatives for having never tried it. Allow me to post a few positives.

Weight: this little thing is a lot lighter than attaching a 580 on top of your camera, and when you’ve already got a gripped body, lightening the load might be a good thing for some.

AF Assist: You did note it, but added the caveat that the red light could be annoying. True, but I for one find the benefit of the assist to far outweigh the possible negative.

No Preflash: The flash masters communicate with a preflash to the slaves which means you’re going to be getting a preflash that might cause your subject to assume that it was the real flash. That’s not an issue with the st-e2 which communicates with IR. Even if you use the menu in the master flash to turn it off and only use it as a transmitter, you’re still going to get a flash fire to communicate to your slaves.

Price: I picked mine up on ebay for $160. And right now I’m finding it hard to locate even a 550ex on ebay for even $250, so good luck finding a 580ex II for $300.

RadioPoppers: For those who went the RadioPopper Px route but don’t want to invest in the on camera flash necessary to use them, the st-e2 is a cheap solution to the problem.

Ratios: While you can only control two groups of flashes, you can set a ratio in 1/2 stop increments between the two. With and 8:1 ratio coupled with the FEC control through your camera it should give you all the control you need. Of course, if you need more than that then you’ll have to switch to manual on your flashes.

High Speed Sync: As I understand it, not many transmitters allow you to use high speed sync, the st-e2 does (as do the flashes as masters).

This is not to say that the negatives you listed were not valid points, they definitely are. I just think that the post was a tad too much on the negative side and didn’t fully outline the positives.March 2, 2010 – 11:34 am

Richard Bui - David, sorry, somehow your comment ended up in moderation and I didn’t see it, but you are correct, I do not own a ST-E2. Definitely thank you for taking the time to give readers the other perspective! You definitely bring a lot of good positives.March 24, 2010 – 6:06 am

Dennis Pike - I’m going to have to agree with David and Martin. I own one, and I love it. I have a couple 580 II’s as well, and I find that using a 580 as a master unit is far less reliable.

I have had one situation where the IR signal was being dispersed too quickly. It was noon, on a cloudless day in the middle of a snow covered field. That was a pain that it did not work. On the other hand I have also been able to fire flashes from around corners inside, as well as fire flashes behind me.

The FEC and locking issues have been covered.

But, I will agree with you on the battery issue. They last me about 6 months at a time, and sometimes are a pain to find. I usually buy about 4 of them at a time.

I think it’s a solid reliable system, but is in need of an update.

Different battery system, digital controls, another group.April 22, 2010 – 11:35 am

Richard Bui - Dennis: good points. One trick that works well is to put the ST-E2 or 580EX2 on an off-camera cable (OC-E3) to be able to point it in the direction of your flashes. The Joe McNally trick.

I would certainly consider one if they made the updates you are suggesting!May 20, 2010 – 10:07 pm

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